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[laughter] [applause] >> for this next question, let's pretend that president obama is sitting in this chair. but pretend this is a private room -- let's pretend this is a private room. we need everyone out there to be quiet. if you were here along with the president, what are the two things you would tell him you need to make your state more competitive or all states more competitive? >> i think and i am an unabashed supporter of the president. i do not think all his policies are perfect but he has done a remarkable job of coming into an almost impossible situation in dealing with it as best you can. i can -- would look at the programs that have already embarked on the investment of making sure the government supports research at the deepest trouble and is providing not just grants but tax credits. the focus on making sure that we're building a culture of innovation. colorado is the last three years when there were no jobs anywhere, more 25-34 year-old came to call rudder than any other state in the country. -- colorado more than any other state in the country. we want to make sure th
[laughter] [applause] >> for this next question, let's pretend that president obama is sitting in this chair. but pretend this is a private room -- let's pretend this is a private room. we need everyone out there to be quiet. if you were here along with the president, what are the two things you would tell him you need to make your state more competitive or all states more competitive? >> i think and i am an unabashed supporter of the president. i do not think all his policies are...
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obama will accept for the national debt. that was pointed out by steve croft and here is what the president had to say. >> i inherited the biggest deficit in our history. over the last four years, the deficit has gone up but 90% is a consequence of two wars that weren't paid for, as consequence of tax cuts that weren't paid for. a prescription drug plan that wasn't paid for and worst economic crisis since the great depression. that accounts for 10% for the increase in the deficit. >> we asked editor james free man to run the numbers. so let's take these one by one. did president obama inherit the biggest deficit in american history? >> it wasn't the biggest and he didn't inherit it. world war ii had bigger deficits. he didn't really inherit it. he helped create it. 2009 was the first year in office and especially something he doesn't seem to want to remember, stimulus $8000 billion. >> paul: as a share of the economy it was 3.2%. it did balloon to 10.1% in 2009. i would give president bush some credit for that because in fac
obama will accept for the national debt. that was pointed out by steve croft and here is what the president had to say. >> i inherited the biggest deficit in our history. over the last four years, the deficit has gone up but 90% is a consequence of two wars that weren't paid for, as consequence of tax cuts that weren't paid for. a prescription drug plan that wasn't paid for and worst economic crisis since the great depression. that accounts for 10% for the increase in the deficit....
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it is more favorable to barack obama. with that in mind, let's look at the particular swing states that are in play. maybe more so than any other state, ohio was supposed to be the fulcrum on which this election might rest. it was believed to be accessible for mitt romney and that obama could hold. he is only four electrical vote s short. this is not happening. at this point is option a four or five point lead. if you look at some of the data, you see the worst group for obama in 2008 was the white working class. his hope is that he would be able to expand the marching quite a bit. you think it would not have been that part of a cell. it has been hard hit economically. a lot of ticked off factory workers. you think it would have been an ideal place. this is not to not to be the case. bromley is not anywhere close to driving up the margin among white working-class voters. he is at best a few points later. he is doing no better among white college graduates. that is one reason why the state is looking pretty favorable to ba
it is more favorable to barack obama. with that in mind, let's look at the particular swing states that are in play. maybe more so than any other state, ohio was supposed to be the fulcrum on which this election might rest. it was believed to be accessible for mitt romney and that obama could hold. he is only four electrical vote s short. this is not happening. at this point is option a four or five point lead. if you look at some of the data, you see the worst group for obama in 2008 was the...
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. >> the government spokeswoman said the obama administration is working as fast as possible to put in new procedures. >>> a brentwood man was arrested today on suspicious of carrying out a massive foreclosure. investigators say that the 44- year-old convicted disstressed homeowners he could take their existing debt and replace it with a new lower debt to his country. they say more than 1,000 homeowners paid upwards of $3.1 million to him. >> today the governor signed a bill that will get the next generation of clean clergy vehicles to use state carpool lanes to free this as area is around the state test high occupancy toll lanes. they will issue them to set aside clean air vehicle that will grant solo drivers access to the lanes. >> we are live in san francisco here and coming up in just two minutes we continue to follow the crowd as they celebrate 20 years of the critical mass bike ride and protest. >> and a community in mourning tonight after an 11-year-old was hit and kildare riding her bike. the reason the little girl may have been riding on that road yesterday. card hassles? intr
. >> the government spokeswoman said the obama administration is working as fast as possible to put in new procedures. >>> a brentwood man was arrested today on suspicious of carrying out a massive foreclosure. investigators say that the 44- year-old convicted disstressed homeowners he could take their existing debt and replace it with a new lower debt to his country. they say more than 1,000 homeowners paid upwards of $3.1 million to him. >> today the governor signed a...
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and earlier, the obama campaign, the burmese python was a real concern for the obama campaign. a tweet from obama's press secretary ensured that residents knew the administration has banned import of the snake. now, you may laugh and there is some humor in this, but it is r very, very serious for some. ticks and snakes. because these micro targeting campaigns can really move the needle. they're important to crucial voters in crucial states like florida and virginia. ben smith, david frum, former adviser to george w. bush and corey elons. great to see you. so, you know, david, i have to say, lyme disease with so many to joke about this, it's got to be there's some crucial core of lyme disease cases and this is something people care about. turns out loudon county, northern virginia, has one of the highest rates of lyme disease in the country. could this issue really resonate? >> resonates with me. i've had lyme disease. it's nasty. it also is a way for candidates to connect with real issues to real people. who feel that a lot of the issues we discuss are awfully abstract. i mean,
and earlier, the obama campaign, the burmese python was a real concern for the obama campaign. a tweet from obama's press secretary ensured that residents knew the administration has banned import of the snake. now, you may laugh and there is some humor in this, but it is r very, very serious for some. ticks and snakes. because these micro targeting campaigns can really move the needle. they're important to crucial voters in crucial states like florida and virginia. ben smith, david frum,...
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one of the numbers your viewers should keep watching is to look at obama -- president obama's job ratings. they have been in the mid 40s for much of the year. twice they've spiked to around 50. right now, he's around 50. this is about a high water mark for president obama. each time he has gotten to that magical 50% has immediately dropped back down. look, if he can keep his job rating at 50 or higher, he's going to be in a good position, but he's never been able to do that. if you see that drop again, you'll continue to show polls that show this is tight. >> jen, your internal polls for the obama campaign, do they show it like gallup, like cnn or tighter like rasmusen? >> well, we're -- >> come on. >> we're not focused internally or externally on the national polls. we're focused on seven to nine states, as i'm sure the romney team is as well. some, we're close, some we have more of a lead on. but it doesn't matter because we have 38 days to go and we need our supporters to turn out. it doesn't matter unless they cast their vote. so that's what our focus is is now. turning people out. it
one of the numbers your viewers should keep watching is to look at obama -- president obama's job ratings. they have been in the mid 40s for much of the year. twice they've spiked to around 50. right now, he's around 50. this is about a high water mark for president obama. each time he has gotten to that magical 50% has immediately dropped back down. look, if he can keep his job rating at 50 or higher, he's going to be in a good position, but he's never been able to do that. if you see that...
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president obama is up by 2 points. in swing state new hampshire, it's president obama up by 5 points, in swing state up pennsylvania, it president obama up a by 7 points. do we still call michigan a
president obama is up by 2 points. in swing state new hampshire, it's president obama up by 5 points, in swing state up pennsylvania, it president obama up a by 7 points. do we still call michigan a
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a senior romney adviser writing "president obama is a uniquely gifted speaker and is widely regarded as one of the most talented political communicators in modern history." the obama campaign saying of romney he'll be a "prepared, disciplined and aggressive debater," pointing to the 20 debates romney had in the primaries. and as we've seen before, debates can hinge on one moment. >> how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> well, i think the national debt affects everybody. obviously, it has a lot to do with interest rates. >> she's saying you personally. >> you. on a personal basis, how has it affected you? >> has it affected you personally? >> well, i'm sure it has. i love my grandchildren -- >> how? >> i want to think that they're going to be able to afford an education. if the question -- maybe i'll get it wrong. >> reporter: then candidate bill clinton walking toward her. >> you know people who lost their job
a senior romney adviser writing "president obama is a uniquely gifted speaker and is widely regarded as one of the most talented political communicators in modern history." the obama campaign saying of romney he'll be a "prepared, disciplined and aggressive debater," pointing to the 20 debates romney had in the primaries. and as we've seen before, debates can hinge on one moment. >> how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how...
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yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us.
yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us.
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before that, senior obama campaign advisor david axelrod. each has been working as though the entire campaign depends on what happens in next week's debate. the question is will it? we will talk about that in a moment. first, one indisputable truth, debates can make history. >> i have been -- >> september 26, 1960. the first televised presidential debate, signaling a new era where appearances matter more than ever and gaffes, however small, are magnified. >> the goals are the same for all americans. >> john f. kennedy, a young senator from massachusetts, facing off against vice president richard nixon, who is known to be a fierce debater. but on screen, kennedy looks cool and calm, while nixon looks uncomfortable, sweating profusely under the hot studio lights. nixon flounders under the glare of television for all four debates. kennedy goes on to win the election. in 1976, president gerald ford makes this blunder in his debate with georgia governor jimmy carter. >> there is no soviet domination of eastern europe and there never will be under
before that, senior obama campaign advisor david axelrod. each has been working as though the entire campaign depends on what happens in next week's debate. the question is will it? we will talk about that in a moment. first, one indisputable truth, debates can make history. >> i have been -- >> september 26, 1960. the first televised presidential debate, signaling a new era where appearances matter more than ever and gaffes, however small, are magnified. >> the goals are the...
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in florida where nearly one out of three voters is over 65, romney trails president obama by four points. 51% to 47%. in ohio, romney is down eight points, 52% to 44%. and it gets about the same z mbers in virginia, eight points behind. in those three states, of senior voters who said medicare is extremely important 53% are going with president obama, 42% mitt romney. we asked dean reynolds to tell us more about the medicare factor. >> the first step to a stronger strcare is to repeal obamacare. oboos) because it represents the worst of both worlds! >> reporter: a week ago when republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan spoke about medicare to the american association of retired persons in new orleans, he got an earful. >> the law turned medicare boo into a piggy bank for obamacare! (boos) >> reporter: that frosty reaction is borne out in new polling, both by cbs news and others which found more people thought the president would do a better job handling medicare than governor romney. the "washington post" and kaiser foundation surveyed voters in virginia, ohio, and florida. in tho
in florida where nearly one out of three voters is over 65, romney trails president obama by four points. 51% to 47%. in ohio, romney is down eight points, 52% to 44%. and it gets about the same z mbers in virginia, eight points behind. in those three states, of senior voters who said medicare is extremely important 53% are going with president obama, 42% mitt romney. we asked dean reynolds to tell us more about the medicare factor. >> the first step to a stronger strcare is to repeal...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. ♪ [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... ♪ ♪ ♪ that should do it. enjoy your new shower. [ door opens, closes ] >>> new chapter in the search for jimmy hoffa. police broke through concrete in michigan today. their findings ahead. in today'g environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth m
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off...
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the census was carried by 410,000 votes for president obama. new hampshire win for obama by 68,000. a smaller number, but smaller state. fewer votes to pick up. i will let for obama by 136,000 votes and colorado went for one by 130,000. i told those up because the total up to about 2 million. for mitt romney to win the presidency he has to change about 0 million mines. he has to take 2 million of those voters in change and million of their minds. actually ferlies do. a very small number. do you realize that the campaign will spend approximately $2 billion on each side, more than $2,000 per vote will be spent. into those campaigns -- and three other states matter a little bit. michigan, nevada, and mexico. if they come on for its home state son romney, the election is over. nevada, new mexico, very difficult to imagine going for romney at this point. it might go in a landslide. at the they will, but that's not where you bet the farm. here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head ba
the census was carried by 410,000 votes for president obama. new hampshire win for obama by 68,000. a smaller number, but smaller state. fewer votes to pick up. i will let for obama by 136,000 votes and colorado went for one by 130,000. i told those up because the total up to about 2 million. for mitt romney to win the presidency he has to change about 0 million mines. he has to take 2 million of those voters in change and million of their minds. actually ferlies do. a very small number. do you...
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president obama is a yes but with an asterisk. mr. romney moves from a yes to a no. here's why. in 2004, governor romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts and now candidate romney says he any new laws. >> we need a president to enforce current laws that create new ones that only serve to baffle lawful gun owners. >> reporter: so that's a yes. >> a lot of gun owners believe ak-47s belong in the hands of soldier, not the hands of criminals. >> reporter: the reason obama's yes has an asterisk, that in four years, no new gun control laws have been enacted. under obama's watch concealed weapons are now allowed on am track trains and in national parks. >> he's continued to pay lip service to those things but he hasn't shown real leadership pursuing those changes. >> reporter: yes, background checks have gotten more there or rogue under obama for people legally buying guns in gun shops. the big problem remains gun shows and the internet, specifically unlicensed dealers selling firearms to buyers with no background check needed. president obama has supported closin
president obama is a yes but with an asterisk. mr. romney moves from a yes to a no. here's why. in 2004, governor romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts and now candidate romney says he any new laws. >> we need a president to enforce current laws that create new ones that only serve to baffle lawful gun owners. >> reporter: so that's a yes. >> a lot of gun owners believe ak-47s belong in the hands of soldier, not the hands of criminals. >>...
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four years ago, when john mcgain and barack obama had their first debate, obama was up 50-45 before the debate when it was said and done he was up 51-45. four years earlier when kerry and bush went at it, kerry won the first debate, no impact on the horse race numbers the only thing that changed this gives a good perspective, after kerry won the debate, kerry supporters said debates are really important. bush supporters said, not so much. >> gregg: i want to go back to what you pointed out. i remember it well the carter-reagan debate in 1980. democrats and carter had tried to portray ronald reagan as this crazy actor with dangerous views going to create armageddon in the cold war with the soviets. suddenly, america tens of millions of americans tuned into the debates and they said wait a minute, this guy is likeable, making a lot of sense -- >> charming, right. >> gregg: let's compare that to today. the president has been trying to, with attack ads demonize mitt romney as this sort of horrible businessman. might this debate be comeable? -- compareable? >> the debate in '80 was one week
four years ago, when john mcgain and barack obama had their first debate, obama was up 50-45 before the debate when it was said and done he was up 51-45. four years earlier when kerry and bush went at it, kerry won the first debate, no impact on the horse race numbers the only thing that changed this gives a good perspective, after kerry won the debate, kerry supporters said debates are really important. bush supporters said, not so much. >> gregg: i want to go back to what you pointed...
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this is one of the three campaigns that president obama hailed today. also today both canada since had separate conversations with israel's prime minister. do not forget that kron 4 will air a ball hol >> temperatures were a lot cooler today but into tomorrow morning will still see the fall. we will be looking at warmer temperatures around the bay. it will not be to excessively hot on saturday but sunday and monday will be a different story. we will see the '90s for the bay shore. an excessive heat watch has been issued for the entire bay area. the delta and portions of said the south will be under a watch started on sunday. as we look at future cast the model is not showing that it will get too hot for tomorrow. by noon time on saturday it will be about 70 spirit was still a lot of eighties by 3:00 p.m.. let's take a look neighborhood by neighborhood. down in south bay it will be about 80 degrees. 89 in morgan hill. it is possible that this may get warmer than this but it will be due to how fast it takes for the fall to move out. antioch will get up to
this is one of the three campaigns that president obama hailed today. also today both canada since had separate conversations with israel's prime minister. do not forget that kron 4 will air a ball hol >> temperatures were a lot cooler today but into tomorrow morning will still see the fall. we will be looking at warmer temperatures around the bay. it will not be to excessively hot on saturday but sunday and monday will be a different story. we will see the '90s for the bay shore. an...
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the rnc says it has cut ties with that firm. >>> president obama and mitt romney facing american voters who are trying to weigh their choices this wednesday, the first presidential debate, october 3rd. watch it live at 7:00 eastern time right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> all right, a group of high school cheerleaders in texas take their fight on the sidelines to the courtroom after being told not to use bible verses verses for games. our guys are standing by for a spirited debate. richard says, no, no, no. they're going to be joining us, yes, yes, yes, in a moment. >>> if you have to go out today, just a reminder, you can continue watching cnn from your mobile phone and watch cnn live from your laptop, go to cnn.com/tv.an it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. what's the rush? ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our
the rnc says it has cut ties with that firm. >>> president obama and mitt romney facing american voters who are trying to weigh their choices this wednesday, the first presidential debate, october 3rd. watch it live at 7:00 eastern time right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> all right, a group of high school cheerleaders in texas take their fight on the sidelines to the courtroom after being told not to use bible verses verses for games. our guys are standing by for a spirited...
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>> i think mitt romney has it right in the sense that obama care is unpopular. pieces of it might be popular, but mitt romney's been campaigning that he would repeal obama care and replace it with pieces that are popular, but this whole idea about social issues i think is so fascinating and underreported that really it's the obama campaign and the democratic party that has tried to make this a social issues election. even turning questions of taxation into a question of fairness, not one of fiscal responsibility or sobriety because at the president himself said, you don't raise taxes in a recession, and we're still certainly struggling along in this economy. so taxation has been turned into a social issue. we saw in the mid-term election that 31% of gay men and women actually voted for the gop so. what did you see at the democratic convention? gay marriage being touted. finally, on women's issues. if you were to listen to the democratic party, apparently there's some deficit, some sortage sort a -- shortage of condoms, but women care most about the economy. demo
>> i think mitt romney has it right in the sense that obama care is unpopular. pieces of it might be popular, but mitt romney's been campaigning that he would repeal obama care and replace it with pieces that are popular, but this whole idea about social issues i think is so fascinating and underreported that really it's the obama campaign and the democratic party that has tried to make this a social issues election. even turning questions of taxation into a question of fairness, not one...
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president obama was a state legislator in illinois. and a lot of the troops on the battlefield, they were in middle school. so we decided to come back, see where things stand. how solid is the u.s. exit strategy? we started by going to the heart of the taliban, the place where 9/11 was inspired. southern afghanistan, famous for its poppies, the taliban, and some of this war's toughest battles. lieutenant general james terry is the operational commander of the war. he agreed to take us into the notorious horn of pangway to see where we stand 11 years into this war. where we are right now, essentially this is the taliban homeland. >> we're headed right into it. >> we head over rich farm lands in kandahar province, making our way atop a strategically important hill top. >> this is looking back down over the district. >> it's a place where taliban fighters largely controlled until the u.s. troop surge of 2010. >> actually got in here and got into a pretty significant fight, a couple thousand taliban. the task force orion along task force 3
president obama was a state legislator in illinois. and a lot of the troops on the battlefield, they were in middle school. so we decided to come back, see where things stand. how solid is the u.s. exit strategy? we started by going to the heart of the taliban, the place where 9/11 was inspired. southern afghanistan, famous for its poppies, the taliban, and some of this war's toughest battles. lieutenant general james terry is the operational commander of the war. he agreed to take us into the...
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here in iowa, the early numbers and early turnout is just a big obama head-start. so far, an advantage statewide in requesting early ballots. >> i was wondering if the president will have your support this november. awesome. >> reporter: and when it comes to early in-person voting, there is added emphasis in getting younger voters in early. >> you may know that the early voting starts tomorrow in iowa. so basically for us here at the campaign, every day will be an election day. >> yes, we can. >> reporter: home to the university of iowa, they led the state four years ago when 55% of their ballots were cast early. >> the entire world is watching us. >> reporter: as president of the university democrats? katherine baldy's job is getting her fellow students to vote now. >> fair to say, not the most reliable if you just wait for one day. >> yeah, i mean, things can come up. you can have an exam, you can wait until election day and not know where the precinct is, it just gives us more chances to catch people. >> reporter: president obama is ahead, as september winds dow
here in iowa, the early numbers and early turnout is just a big obama head-start. so far, an advantage statewide in requesting early ballots. >> i was wondering if the president will have your support this november. awesome. >> reporter: and when it comes to early in-person voting, there is added emphasis in getting younger voters in early. >> you may know that the early voting starts tomorrow in iowa. so basically for us here at the campaign, every day will be an election...
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care kicked in, and that was exactly what president obama had used to justify passing obama care when he said there are the spiraling health care costs so your costs were rising even without obama care, but. >> no doubt about it. >> alisyn: now, it sounds like, according again to the national federation for independent business research foundation, that's a mouthful, your taxes could go up by 3%. what does it mean for your future and your employees? >> what it means is, if we see another year or two what we've seen in the past two years, we will, we will no longer be providing health care for our 58-- you know, we've got 52 full-time employees that we pay 100% on their health care and that will go away. as simple as that. we cannot absorb the cost any longer for the way the stuff is going up. >> clayton: what about laying people off? we've heard from individuals and spoken to small business owners who are saying they have to go through seminars to try to figure out how obama care will impact their small business and whether or not they can hire individuals or have to lay folks off. wh
care kicked in, and that was exactly what president obama had used to justify passing obama care when he said there are the spiraling health care costs so your costs were rising even without obama care, but. >> no doubt about it. >> alisyn: now, it sounds like, according again to the national federation for independent business research foundation, that's a mouthful, your taxes could go up by 3%. what does it mean for your future and your employees? >> what it means is, if we...
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obama's biggest leads are in ohio, new hampshire, and iowa. of course, this could change in the weeks to come. the tightest races at this point are nevada and north carolina. the national average of those polled has president obama with a 49.5%, the potential vote 44% for romney. >>>in this weekend's presidential address president obama is calling on congress to help homeowners. >> last week mortgage rates were at historic lows. but instead of helping more and more hard working families take advantage of those rates. congress was away on break. instead of worrying about you they had already gone home to worry about their campaigns. >> the president says congress has yet to act on legislation he sent them in february that would save homeowners about $3000 a year on their mortgages. >>> the first presidential debate is wednesday at the university of denver. right now construction crews are busyworking on the main floor, the stage and the lighting while president obama campaigns in nevada tomorrow, romney will spend the weekend preparing for that
obama's biggest leads are in ohio, new hampshire, and iowa. of course, this could change in the weeks to come. the tightest races at this point are nevada and north carolina. the national average of those polled has president obama with a 49.5%, the potential vote 44% for romney. >>>in this weekend's presidential address president obama is calling on congress to help homeowners. >> last week mortgage rates were at historic lows. but instead of helping more and more hard working...